OutOfContro WeblNancy Kurshan, author of Out of Control:A Fifteen Year Battle Against Control Unit Prisons, spoke with Avery Gordon and Elizabeth Robinson about the Marion Prison lock down as the prototype for control unit prisons.

These prisons have now become common as at Pelican Bay’s ‘Secure Housing Units’ which have created an international outcry as violations of fundamental human rights. She discussed the prison but also the organizing efforts to abolish them and to at least create more humane conditions for prisoners. Listen here.